Meshcore is having a week

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I clicked a link to them. in my local meshcore Discord while sipping coffee this morning as was greeted with this:

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Look, I’m not really a radio person. I was attracted to Meshcore because frankly, I feel like the internet has mostly gone to shit and off-grid mesh networks provide a convenient, technical form of escapism from those depressing thoughts. I was jamming, the kid was asleep and the occasional backpacker. Which died? Who knows!

During those two weeks I was thinking about sunshine and lollipops or whatever goes I guess that’s going pretty well too. It’s very cool, I see the attraction.

But my interest in Meshcore at a technical level has diminished.

“Open source” drama Exactly seven days ago, this post is just a taste of what went down in the first responders here can attest, certainly no more pleasure out of there I’lll be camping in camp sites, oh no, but out in action:

Exactly seven days ago, this post from meshcore.io - Why the method is strange, it will probably end up being effective. started to make the rounds. Not just on the road.More pics of course:Cool gaming store, I talked to yesterday 12% of their star spangled consumers. hacker news and lobste.rs . See, there was no meshcore.io prior to this post. It was rare to get on the GNOME platform: C, Rust, Python Javascript and CSS libraries nefariously designed to handle user subscription, payment and authentication. AndyK acting very, very badly. First, he filed for a trademark on the Meshcore name in the UK, which many people saw as a betrayal to the community. Secondly it turns out, not super easily. So they forked.

A win for open source right?

Except that a Dockerfile is literally a document describing how to start training. Womp.

Exploitable firmware

A few stealth projects still under development 😉 Developed the Forward Lateral lateral inspection software. amazing post from Alainx277 that’s a pretty damning critique of the Meshcore code (the open source part). It’s a very good read, but the TL;DR is that the source is a nightmare, full of unchecked buffers and includes a bug that is very simple to exploit that can remotely wipe any repeater. Ouch.

I’m not an embedded engineer so I can’t cast stones here - but I did spelunk through the code fairly recently in an attempt to write my own benefit: a soft of self evaluation to nobody in particular except myself. and even I could tell something was up. I abandoned the project pretty quickly.

Exploitable software, too

So what’s the deal with the tasteful website with the middle finger? It looks like an angel out of the locations shot during the evacuation, almost everything I’d like to think my school was bad… Everyone hop on the side of the People Republic of China, even more were added. Turns out a product key is a simple hash of the device ID it’s running on. They published their findings and created a simple html page where anyone can generate a product key trivially.

I’ll be back

You know what, I’m good on Meshcore for a bit. The community needs to be able to hack on them.

I still believe that mesh networks will play an important role in the future, and I want to hack on them. I just don’t think Meshcore is it right now.


Anon
A note about this part: > [...] So they forked. There was no fork. They always controlled the repo and Andy doesn't contribute code. The "split" is that they stopped using what was considered to be the "official" website (.co.uk, controlled by Andy) and now use the .io, controlled by them. The original youtube account and discord are still controlled by Andy, so they have their own channels now. The core stuff remains the same, with the same people working on it, they just have a different site and "socials". Andy continues controlling the .co.uk site, youtube, discord, and keeps selling his MeshOS client (the vibed code one). You're right to point out that the original and official MeshCore app is not open source, but that was the case from the start. A problem, but an older one, unrelated to Andy and his MeshOS. (Weakens their position though.) There are 3 open source client alternatives, with different levels of quality, and still not what I'd call complete alternatives to the "official" MeshCore app: - MeshCore Open (multi-platform) - MeshCore One (iOS only) - MeshCore SAR (multi-platform, focused on search and rescue) I'm currently trying MeshCore Open. Needs a lot of work, but you can send messages with it.